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[原创-其它] 埃尔多安表示:没有土耳其,F-35项目注定会失败

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The F-35 fighter jet project is doomed to fail if Washington keeps blocking the delivery of the promised aircraft to Turkey over its refusal to back out of an arms deal with Russia, President Recep Tayyip Erdogan said.

土耳其总统雷杰普•塔伊普•埃尔多安(Recep Tayyip Erdogan)表示,如果美国继续阻止向土耳其交付承诺的F-35战斗机,那么F-35战斗机项目注定会失败,原因是土耳其拒绝退出与俄罗斯的武器协议。

Speaking at a defense expo in Istanbul on Tuesday, Erdogan blasted Washington for applying “injustice and pressure” against its ally Turkey over the beleaguered F-35 deal.

埃尔多安星期二在伊斯坦布尔的一个国防博览会上发表讲话,抨击华盛顿在F-35战机交易问题上对土耳其盟友施加“不公正和压力”。

The F-35 project is bound to completely collapse if it excludes Turkey.

如果把土耳其排除在外,F-35项目肯定会彻底失败。



Ankara had also been repeatedly telling the US that it will stick to the S-400 purchase, insisting that as a sovereign nation it is free to buy arms from whoever it likes. The first pack of the S-400s is scheduled to be shipped to Turkey in July.

安卡拉方面还多次告诉美国,它将坚持购买S-400,坚称作为一个主权国家,它可以从任何它喜欢的国家购买武器。第一批S-400计划在7月运往土耳其。

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The Smart one
F35 is and always has been a dead duck ...

F35是并且一直是一个注定要完蛋的项目…

DukeLeo
Yes. No combat aircraft in the history of aeronautics cost more (1.5 trillion dollars) and delivered less than the F-35.

是的。在航空史上,没有任何一架战斗机比F-35的成本更高(1.5万亿美元),交付量也没有比F-35更少的。

ieSHaia
dogfights are a thing of the past

空中格斗是过去的事了

Dump_the_hacker
What a bunch of nonsense ? If that was so they would not be spending so much effort training for it

真是一派胡言?如果是这样的话,他们就不会为此花费那么多精力培训飞行员了

With modern jamming equipment, and early far distant hit are far, far from any high rate success.

有了现代化的干扰设备,再早再远的打击都远远达不到任何高成功率。

ieSHaia
uhhuh. they didn't have electronic countermeasures when dogfights evolved. nor space based weapons. etc. etc. dogfights are a thing of the past

在空中格斗的进化过程中,他们没有电子对抗装置。也没有太空武器。空中格斗是过去的事了

DukeLeo
Wrong. Combat aircraft carry AA missiles, and are also armed with cannon for dog fights.

错了。战斗机携带防空导弹,也装备有机炮进行空中格斗。



Blue8ball713
He'll get no spares i guess ...

我想他不会得到备件……

RedScooter635
which would equate to have a fleet of planes that can perform only ONE mission before being grounded.

这相当于拥有一支飞机舰队,在着陆前只能执行一项任务。

Some airframes could be cannibalized though.

不过有些机身可能会被拆下来。

Samology
I think this is just a bully by Turkey on US and other foolish allies who don't know how to use their brains and keep falling into the US bully all the time. Turkey has realized from the coup and making the right choice.

我认为这只是土耳其对美国和其他愚蠢的盟友的一种欺凌,他们不知道如何使用他们的大脑,并一直落入美国的欺凌。土耳其从政变中认识到这一点,做出了正确的选择。

Andrew Johnson
I would reckon the complaint legitimately comes from the fact that Turkey has paid deposit for said warplanes, and US reneged on the deal, using the S400 story as the excuse.

我认为,土耳其为上述战机支付了定金,而美国以土耳其购买S400为借口,违背了协议。

Boki1976
Well, he is right... they can't build worse airplane anyway...

嗯,他是对的……反正他们也造不出更差的飞机……

For costs of F35 development any other nation would have built space cruiser with hyperdrive.

有了F35的开发成本,任何其他国家都可以建造超空间巡洋舰了。

Alex572
Be careful Turkey,the US may appoint a "GUAIDO" in your place and ask the Turkish military to have an uprising against you

小心啊,土耳其,美国可能会在你的国家任命一个“瓜伊多”,并要求土耳其军队起义反对你

Harry Meneely
Its been tried....and failed.

它尝试过....,但都以失败告终。

Blue8ball713
That's why Erdogan buys S-400 from Russia... The NATO tried and he got warned by Russia. Epicenter of the attempt putsch was Diabakirk the NATO base .....

这就是为什么埃尔多安从俄罗斯购买S-400。。。北约进行了政变尝试,他得到了俄罗斯的警示。企图发动政变的中心是迪亚巴克尔的北约基地。。。

imran4006
I think Russians already know F-35 vulnerabilities when Israel used it in Syria & was damaged by Syrian air defense.

我认为当以色列在叙利亚使用它并被叙利亚防空破坏时,俄罗斯人已经知道F-35的弱点了。

Bruce Maclean
Sukhoi su-35s are cheaper and they fly, unlike the F-35s.

苏-35更便宜,而且它们能飞,不像F -35。

dogo_argentino
Flightless birds from Turkey.... lol

来自土耳其的不会飞的鸟…哈哈



Samology
b'c'us sanction will come from different directions from US on Turkey. US will also freeze the money paid already for the LockheadMartin...lol

美国在土耳其问题上的制裁方向将与他国不同。美国也将冻结已经支付给洛克希德马丁的钱…哈哈

Jonathan Trapman
The Bullies' bite back - so delicious - may it move to completion!

恶霸们反咬一口——如此美味——愿它完成!

Ah Boh
Erdogan should know his NATO "friends" will not forgive him for his attempt at insubordination to "Freedom and Democracy". They hate him.

埃尔多安应该知道,他的北约“朋友”不会原谅他试图不服从“自由和民主”的行为。他们恨他。

Penny Smirlis
Erdogan is no less imperialist than those he accuses

埃尔多安和他所指责的那些人一样,都是帝国主义者

Samology
There's nothing like democracy in practice anywhere in the world. The so called name (democracy) is just a huge scam by the so called founders

在实践中,世界上没有任何地方算得上民主。所谓的民主不过是所谓的国父们的一个大骗局

Roman
"F-35 project is bound to COLLAPSE without Turkey – Erdogan". Isn't it collapsing already, with Turkey still as the participant?

“没有土耳其,F-35项目肯定会失败”。它不是已经崩溃了吗,土耳其仍然是参与者?

Pascal Andrew
The F before the 35 means Failure.

35之前的“F”表示“Failure”(失败)。

China and Russia are waiting for them to waste more money, before shooting one down.

中国和俄罗斯正在等待他们浪费更多的钱,然后再击落一架。

Samology
Some F35 are already shot down off the Japan coast....seems the Alein short them down bcos no evidence China or Russia did yet...lol

一些F35战机已经在日本海岸被击落…看来阿莱因低估了他们,因为还没有证据表明中国或俄罗斯这么做…哈哈

Whatafmess
this aircraft has always looked wrong, and it 9s already outdated and barely functional...

这架飞机总是看起来不对劲,而且它已经过时了,几乎不能使用了。

Ralphy101
And, Turkey doesnt really need the S400 - the F35 self destructs.....

而且,土耳其并不真的需要S400 - F35自相矛盾…

Iwanasay
Yes they do, they need it to protect themselves from the US

是的,他们需要,他们需要它来保护自己免受美国的伤害

Petja
Europe is bound to prosper without Erdogun.

没有埃尔多安,欧洲一定会繁荣。

Flim
Trump wants Turkey to pay, but can't deliver the planes,

特朗普想让土耳其出钱,但无法交付飞机,

no nose dive planes - no money coming

没有可驾驶的飞机,就没有钱进

S-400 would be much cheaper

S-400会便宜很多

what can Trump do anyway

特朗普到底能做什么



Samology
Erdogan knows what is doing. let's just wait and see how the S-400 will be deployed to Turkey coming July and see what will come next....

埃尔多安知道自己在做什么。让我们拭目以待S-400将如何在7月部署到土耳其,看看接下来会发生什么……

Maybe US and some other downheaded NATO states "Israel & Brits" will want to lunch another coup on Turkey. We shall all see...lol

也许美国和其他一些北约国家“以色列和英国”会想在土耳其再次发动政变。我们都会看到…哈哈

Honiker
Turkey can have the aircraft, but must first give up their government.

土耳其可以拥有这架飞机,但必须首先放弃他们的政府。

Gear007
Deliver the s-400 already so I don’t have to read about US posturing anymore. Then Turkey can decide, if the US stands firm on not delivering they can buy Russian. Time to isolate the US, stop supporting their military industrial complex.

交付S-400,这样我就不用再看美国的脸色了。然后土耳其可以决定,如果美国坚持不交付战机,他们可以购买俄罗斯的装备。是时候孤立美国了,停止支持他们的军工复合体。

FREETHEworld
they really had to purchase the s400 -because who can trust the US and Nato ? the backdoors built into their weapons mean when they stab you in the back you are defenseless -and no doubt the f35 will be exactly the same

他们真的不得不购买S400——因为谁能相信美国和北约?他们武器里的后门意味着当他们在背后捅你一刀时,你毫无防备——毫无疑问,F35也会完全一样

AntMan
Great idea to develop a domestic fighter aircraft.

这是研制国产战斗机的好机会。

Turkey has the resources and expertise to do so.

土耳其有这样做的资源和专门知识。

Victor
Turkey should not be in NATO , Russia is its next door neighbor and did not and do not represents any threat to Turkey , ,,,

土耳其不应该加入北约,俄罗斯是土耳其的邻国,过去对土耳其没有威胁,现在也不代表对土耳其产生任何威胁。

WHAT IS THE POINT !?

有什么意义!?

Robin Olsen
American idiots... obviously never took a marketing course... threatening your potential customers usually doesn't promote good business...

美国白痴……显然从未上过市场营销课程……威胁你的潜在客户通常不会促成好生意……

Carl Popham
Boeing is taking the hit for it's fatally defective 737 MAX, and Lockheed-martin will take the hit for it's fatally defective F-35.

波音公司因其具有致命缺陷的737 MAX而遭受打击,洛克希德-马丁公司将因其致命缺陷的F-35而遭受打击。

Thorstha
This thing as a weapon, sorry to say is outdated. One F-35 can pay for 700 independent AI strike robots, equaling 700 sorties of the F-35, with no maintenance. Don't fight, it does not pay.

很抱歉,这个东西作为武器已经过时了。一架F-35可以购买700架独立的人工智能攻击机器人,相当于700架次的F-35,无需维护。别争了,不值得。



Tom Dorell
the USA knows that the F35 are useless. they cannot afford to make them and they know that nobody wants to buy them. that's why they making excuses and troubles for the S 400 . in a way to dump the whole F35 project... Boeing is a good example too. USA cannot afford nor got the brain to produce good weapons nor any products anymore...

美国知道F35毫无用处。他们买不起,也知道没人想买。这就是为什么他们要找S400的借口和麻烦。在某种程度上,放弃整个F35项目吧…波音公司也是一个很好的例子。美国负担不起也没有大脑来生产好的武器或任何产品…

SA_
Financial cost of WW2 for Britain is less than the price of program for this aircraft. Think about it.

第二次世界大战给英国造成的经济成本比这架飞机的项目成本还低。想想看吧。

Breatharian
Complete nonsense , US must have set him under pressure if he talks like that.

一派胡言,如果他那样说话,一定是美国给他施加了压力。



Samology
Imagine a country dictating what the other states of the world should do. They just instructed Brits not to sign to the China 5G. How long is this going to last????!!!!

想象一下,一个国家决定着世界其他国家应该做什么。他们指示着英国人不要使用中国的5G设备。这会持续多久??!!




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